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Moscow coat of arms

Something about the St. George on Moscow's coat of arms supposed to represent the Russian crushing the Turks or Mongols underfoot, this kind of thing certainly needs good sourcing and none has ever been provided since it was written 22:43, 27 August 2005 by Ghirlandajo.

I'm seeing this now as a "myth" (piece of fiction manufactured by a novelist), after finding snippets of this article: Brougher, Valentina G. "Myth in Vsevolod Ivanov's The Kremlin", Canadian Slavonic Papers" 35, nos. 3-4 Sept-Dec 1993, 221-234: "The Moscow Kremlin coat of arms is holy: [it depicts] St. George the Triumphant who crushed the serpent (dragon) and tore its pagan Tatar mouth to shreds. Placing the significance of the emblem16 in a historical and religious context that is meaningful to him, the builder..", etc. --Kiyoweap (talk) 01:19, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I added a quote above.

The two sources entirely in Russian need quoting. My guess is all they state is that the man is St. George vs a dragon (cf. Coat of arms of Moscow article), and the rest of it is synthesis, based on the user picking up on fiction such as written by Vsevolod Ivanov.--Kiyoweap (talk) 06:37, 14 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Presence of the Romanian Zmeu

Is it justified to deem the Romanian Zmeu a Slavic mythological entity? It seems to differ greatly from the benevolent Balkan Zmei, possesing different attributes and presumably originating in earlier folklore which had syncretized. As far as I can tell, the Romanian Zmeu at most fulfills the role of equivalent to the Ala, with Pre-Slavic Paleo-Balkan elements being presumably at the root of the weather-making legend present in both.These aspects are found in the myth of the Romanian Zmei or Balauri, present in the Scholomance legend partially covered in this article, the latter name being of Daco-Thracian or largely Paleo-Balkan root; *bell- or *ber- "beast, monster". Considering that the Romanians are not a Slavic people, should their folklore be generalized here? -- Trideeglass (talk) 20:25, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]