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Data conflicting with cited sources

Guys, something is going very wrong here. The data for the film's gross takings are cited to the 2003 version of Box Office Mojo, which I take it is a reliable source. We are therefore stating the gross takings as they were in that year, when the film obviously caused a box office sensation. This does not deny or belittle any later earnings, but they are not the point here - this is not a news site, reporting every small change day-to-day; nor a data site, reporting whole data streams for years on end. This is an encyclopedia, and our job is to report "the main points" reliably. Our reliability is a function of the sources we cite, and our compliance with those sources. We can't be seen to be citing 2003 sources and then putting in what may (or may not) be 2021 figures compiled from nobody-knows-where. For what it's worth, I'd say that providing the 2003 data and citing it to a 2003 source makes very good sense here, as it says all that is needed - this film did extremely well at the box office at that time, basta. It is either Original Research, failure to cite sources, or abuse of sources (making them seem to say what they do not) to modify data in an article while the source says something different - that is really damaging to Wikipedia's reputation. I do hope these points are clear to everybody - they are central to the way Wikipedia works, and to how the non-editing public sees Wikipedia, so they matter. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:49, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Karl Urban's stand-in

The caption for the image of the five men on horseback identifies the actor on the left as Karl Urban. According to the director's audio commentary, the character intended to be Éomer in that scene is portrayed by Karl Urban's stand-in, and thus is an unknown Rohan rider. The plan was to replace the hand of the stand-in with Urban's, but that never happened. Spleezleton (talk) 21:35, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]