User talk:JM Robert

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User:Twestgard

What worries me is that he plasters his "information" all over the place — often without changing the links accordingly —, yet it all seems to come from a single book... It is, for instance, bizarre to summarize La Cagoule as an antisemitic group attacking synagogues — I mean, they attempted a coup d'état! David.Monniaux 06:55, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thanks!! --JM Robert 23:00, Apr 4, 2005 (UTC)

Twestgard's response to being called "anti-French"

M. Robert -

I resent being called anti-French in a place I'm not necessarily likely to find your comment, especially when my "crime" is writing accurate French history. Next time, come to me directly with your accusations if your intent is not merely to slander me. See my more substantive response on writing history here. As for my not customizing the list of links being cited as an accuracy issue, or in support of me being anti-French: Oh, for heaven's sake! Twestgard

I do not believe that your writing is accurate. In fact, the tone of your writing suggest that people are tolerant of Nazis or even denying the Holocaust. This is very strong allegation, as well as, biased behavior. I am sure you understand that writing in neutral tone, free of condescending finger-pointing, will earn you more respect. Moreover, your writing appears to concentrate on anti-Jewish events in 20th century. It is probably one of the most delicate issue among various point of views. As a new user, it is best to learn the Wikipedia Manufal of Style before editing. Thanks! --JM Robert 23:08, Apr 4, 2005 (UTC)

M. Robert - You prove my point for me. When I accurately point out that particular individuals in France were/are tolerant of Nazis (which is true, of course), you take umbrage on behalf of all France and all French (which is a false inference). These facts remain and are not addressed by your comments: (1) That my comments about particular individuals related to a particular company are true, and (2) That calling me anti-French is neither accurate, nor appropriate under Wikipedia rules.

If you have sources that disagree with the facts I wrote, let's hear them. Send me a book title or a web link, and I'll read it. I think the fact that you have, so far, not named any source speaks volumes regarding your knowledge in the field.

As for writings about the history of Judaism/Nazism, I understand that it is highly sensitive, in Wikipedia as elsewhere. But what you and that other fellow did was to react to my writing about it by deleting accurate facts and calling me names. If the point of Wikipedia is to be a system of generating writings that get improved over time (as I believe), this course of action was out of step with good Wikipedia etiquette and the ultimate goals of the project. You should have refrained entirely from calling me names, and proceeded more circumspectly. The need for reasonable behavior, free of personal epithets, is only magnified by the sensitivity of the particular topic.

Very erratic reasoning. Basing all facts on one single book. La Cagoule is a right-wing group, not French Nazis. --JM Robert 03:15, Apr 8, 2005 (UTC)