Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tarutius
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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was keep. —Xezbeth 07:06, Jun 3, 2005 (UTC)
Article on very very minor mythological character. (He was cuckolded by Hercules. End of story.) Has been a stub for 2-1/2 years without anybody adding to it. ----Isaac R 02:19, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge into Hercules. AиDя01DTALK 02:35, May 26, 2005 (UTC)
- Keep and expand to mention the cuckolding thing. Kappa 02:42, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- So every character in every myth or story or book deservers an article? ----Isaac R 02:53, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Mythological figures are more notable than fictional ones, and it's more convenient for the user to have them on separate pages. Kappa 03:42, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- So every character in every myth or story or book deservers an article? ----Isaac R 02:53, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- I generally believe that every mythological figure should have an article. However, this fellow is so unbelievably minor that I can find not a single author who refers to him after the Classical period. No kidding. That means that it's exceptionally unlikely that anyone will encounter the name and need an explanation, so, reluctantly, I have to agree to delete this particular substub. The reason is that it simply can't expand beyond a medium length sentence. Geogre 04:06, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge and redirect to Hercules. Megan1967 06:48, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete; information on him is already at Heracles (not Hercules, and we may want to discuss if we really want those two to be sepaarate articles). --Angr/탉 07:40, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: Can't this at least be redirected so someone trying to look him up will find him? Kappa 08:50, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- L'Emprière's has him listed as Tarrutius. No, he wasn't cuckolded by Hercules, he was, as all three of these articles say, married to Acca Larentia. L'Emprière's tells us that this was because of a bet that someone made with Hercules. Hercules won the bet, and sent Acca Larentia into the street to kiss the first man that she met. This was Tarrutius, an rich old man who became smitten with the young woman who kissed him, and who as a result made her his heiress. (Yup. Such is an old story — one of the classics in more senses than one.) We should at least do as L'Emprière's does, and Redirect to Acca Larentia, removing the self-links in the process. (This is in fact exactly what L'Emprière's does. It's also roughly as per the WP:FICT guidelines of redirecting minor story characters.) A translation of Plutarch's text mentioning Tarrutius can be found here. Also note that others when they mention Tarrutius are referring to a "16th-century astrologer, Lucius Tarrutius of Firmum" (asserted to be "original research" at Talk:Romulus and Remus, incidentally, but clearly tertiary source material in need of cleanup to demonstrate the disagreements in scholarship on this matter — treat it as we would a disagreement in religious scholarship: report the fact that for centuries people have analyzed the story as if it were true, and what the disagreements amongst the analysts are). Also further note that this asserts that Plutarch's Tarrutius was actually Carutius, an Etruscan. Uncle G 09:39, 2005 May 26 (UTC)
- Keep Can't think of a good reason to delete this. Perhaps someone will want to merge with redirect, but that's not something I feel moved to express a preference on. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 13:54, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep or merge. -Sean Curtin 23:50, May 26, 2005 (UTC)
- Keep until we have an article named "Minor characters in XXXXX mythology", then merge and redirect.
I knowI DON'T know enough of this subject to be comfortable casting a delete vote. --Unfocused 02:50, 27 May 2005 (UTC)(correction)--Unfocused 12:45, 27 May 2005 (UTC)[reply] - Keep or merge, and please expand, Uncle G. Eixo 10:48, 27 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. As I understand it, he was a rich Etruscan who left his wife a substantial landholding which was later left to Rome. St Augustine refers to a different version of the story in The City of God. Interesting myth capable of forming a nice little article. Capitalistroadster 15:25, 27 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- I have expanded the article accordingly. No change in vote from Keep. Capitalistroadster 04:11, 28 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep all articles on mythological figures. An article need not be long to be encyclopedic. -- BD2412 talk 17:41, 2005 May 31 (UTC)
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