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References

Many other japanese mythology articles list things like animes, games, tv shows, etc. where the legend is referenced. I can think of at least two of the top of my head right now that mention Momotaro. Samurai Jack, where Jack finds an infant and tells him the tale as they travel, and Okami, where there is a little boy named Momotaro who says he will give you millet dumplings if you pretend to fight ogres with him. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 132.170.39.159 (talk) 23:01, 12 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

More details

More details on Momotaro's adventure would be good. And perhaps include the popular "Momotaro-san" song too? --Plastictv 03:20, 11 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Added the song myself, since i've got a bit of time. But i'm unable to obtain more info on the song. There is some in the Japanese article, but my Jap is too rudimentary. --Plastictv 04:30, 11 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Okay I want a poster paragraph and drawings 41.4.28.59 (talk) 17:56, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

😭🙏😭🙏 41.4.28.59 (talk) 17:57, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Older versions

Maybe someone could add the version of Momotaro before the censored Meiji version. Here's a reference: [1] And the sequel 桃太郎元服姿 written in 1779. --Tokek 05:44, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pop Culture?

Did this story inspire James and the Giant Peach? They have a striking resemblance. --zandperl 08:33, 3 August 2006 (UTC) Momotaro is also featured in a popular MMORPG, Wonderland Online. You first meet him in Japan where he emerges from his giant peach. He asks for help to find his companions, a monkey, a dog and a chicken. Then he travels to an Island nearby and battles Skeletons and evil spirits. He is injured when you find him again and you must bring him dumplings to revive him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.168.213.54 (talk) 23:22, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Uh, yeah...about that... I'm afraid you're logic doen't make sence... I've seen many east meets west moments before, but not like this... Oh, and on a high note, the closest to coming close to japan referencing James and the giant peach was a fan picture of a giant Princess Peach sitting on James of Team rocket (oh yeah, it exists, go to danbooru and search for peach plus kojiro), but for it to reference momotaro, i'm not completely sure... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.45.110.101 (talk) 10:25, 26 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Animal Companions have meaning

The type of animals and their order are very important part of the story.

The Dog is the symbol of loyalty. The Monkey is the symbol of cleverness. The Pheasant is the symbol of courage. (Pheasants attack snakes)

Momotaro was able to defeat the Oni, Onitaiji, because he had loyalty, cleverness and courage. These three characteristics are what any good lord requires of his samurai, in that order. So this story is one way to teach the way of the samurai.

--LF44 00:08, 3 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pheasants are not merely a symbol of courage in Japanese culture, but especially a symbol of self-sacrificing courage. It used to be common to liken the courage that a parent can muster when its child is in danger to the courage of the "pheasant in the burning field" (yakeno-no kigisu), because Japanese people claimed that a pheasant that had built its nest in a field that caught fire would die trying to rescue its chicks from the blaze rather than fleeing to save its own life. Ebizur 01:16, 2 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is also worth mentioning that the Green Pheasant is an old and widely-recognized symbol of Japan; it has officially been designated by the National Bird Society of Japan as the national bird of that country. Ebizur 01:27, 2 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

many more reference exist

I'm quite sure I've seen this story referenced in quite a few more manga than the ones listed here. The only one I can remember for sure right now though is Mahou Tsukai Kurohime though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.149.227.173 (talk) 01:03, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Removed 'In popular culture' section

I have removed the laundry-list style "In popular culture" section, which was largely unreferenced an offered no analysis. The story of Momotarō is indeed well-represented in contemporary as well as historical Japanese culture. Miscellaneous lists are, however, discouraged. I hope that well sourced content analyzing the place of Momotarō in Japanese culture (or world culture) will be added. See the essay WP:"In popular culture" content and the policy Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Cnilep (talk) 21:40, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! You are the first editor I've run across in the Japanese mythology section who seemed to find some problem with both the lack of citations and references as well as the arbitrary nature of such laundry lists. Perhaps if the people who felt compelled to include them in the first place did a little bit of work and actually, you know, wrote in complete sentences and actually cited where they got their information from then this wouldn't be the hot mess it's devolved into. As it stands, do you consider any of the entries of the Momotaro's Pop Cult section worthy of keeping? 22:17, 28 November 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Duende-Poetry (talk • contribs)

I think that now, in 2022 AD, we need the popular culture section back, but not as a list. More like a few paragraphs including things like Dr. Stone Chapter 21 including Momotaro as a badass --TheSNerd (talk) 19:37, 20 October 2022 (UTC) (EDIT on 11/1/23: Yeah, and now add Pokémon Scarlet/Violet Expansion: The Hidden Treasure of Area Zero on top) — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheSNerd (talk • contribs) 22:42, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The conceit of the Westerner. Western influence of momotaro. Many versions existed in front of meiji.

In 1887 (Meiji 20), the story had changed to the baby being born from the peach when it was decided to be published into Japanese textbooks. Influence of Western culture made Japanese society sensitive about sexual issues; therefore causing the government to have strict restraints on the contents of textbooks according to the changed societal norm. It is worth considering the meaning of peach in Japanese culture, which is the symbol of life, sexual relationship and fecundity because the shape of the peach resembles women’s buttocks.

Why does the Westerner tell a lie? The version born from a peach exists in front of meiji.

It is totally different from Japanese Wikipedia. The article is modified so that a Westerner is conceited.211.122.145.83 (talk) 10:16, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Kitao masayoshi(1764 - 1824) 桃太郎一代記(1781) Momotaro is born from a peach.

Shikitei Sanba(1776 - 1822) 桃太郎(1811) Momotaro is born from a peach.

The Westerner makes a Japanese folktale a toy of the conceit of the Westerner. 211.122.145.83 (talk) 11:11, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Momotarō's Song

Shouldn't the Momotarō song in full be shown instead of just a part of it? I think people should get the full context, as the lyrics not shown on the article is about how Momotarō showed no mercy against the Oni and slaughtered them, took their treasures, and celebrated their victory. --HorseFang (talk) 08:21, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]